Talk:Mojave Desert

Mojave Desert was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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July 22, 2021	Good article nominee	Not listed
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Spelling

So, clearly Mohave Desert and Mojave Desert are alternative forms and both deserve to be in Wikipedia. The question is: which one should be the main page and which should be the redirect?

I googled "Mojave Desert" and got 120K hits, while "Mohave Desert" got 5020 hits.. I respectfully suggest that "Mojave Desert" be the main page and "Mohave Desert" be the redirect.

Comments? -- hike395 21:14 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I agree. Mohave is an old Anglicization that is no longer widely used in English. --mav 21:18 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Done. If there is more controversy, let's discuss it at Talk:Mojave Desert -- hike395 21:26 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)

FYI, Mojave is the California usage, and Mohave is the Arizona usage (as in Mohave County, Arizona and the Mohave Indians of Arizona). Why the "j" form is used more than the "h" form could be due to Spanish language influence of California users of the word - who probably vastly outnumber the Arizona users. Of course both spellings are correct in their respective states (and I'm not even getting into how Nevadans spell the word). 209.221.223.88 17:37, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC) avnative

How? (Or was that just a joke about Nevadans spelling it differently?) --Menchi 20:44, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That was a wry comment on the spelling (and educational) level of the Nevadans I've met. --avnative 13:41, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)

Still, one spelling needs to be the article title, the other the redirect. Wikipedia custom seems to take the most common usage/spelling as the title name. Given that both are represented in the encyclopedia, I think it is as even-handed as possible. --- hike395 02:40, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

One thing that may be tripping people up in the spelling is that there is a town in Arizona called Fort Mohave. Fort Mohave, just south of Bullhead City, Arizona and east of Needles, California is actually in the Sonoran Desert is Needles. Bullhead City, oddly enough, as is actually in the Mojave Desert. CrazyJae 02:40, 15 Dec 2006

Another thing that trips people up is they do not live in South-West America were we learn a little Spanish. The 'j' is pronounced like an 'h' and everyone knows the only correct spelling is 'Mojave'. Thanks for deciding correctly; respectfully, AstroU (talk) 13:05, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

What does a photo of a hospital in a town in the Mojave Desert do to help the reader visualize the Mojave Desert? MojaveNC 06:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page is garbage with out references. Also it appears no one has a clue as to why the desert has two spellings. If the site were properly referenced, it would be obvious. Nice photos, but anybody can do that. Also where are the reference pages to the NPS sites the maps and photos were acquired from??? Shoddy work. love and kindness [unsigned]

I suppose the anonymous reader became a WP editor and improved the article herein. -- AstroU (talk) 13:10, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Area in infobox

I've removed the area from the infobox - it was recently added as 48,000 sq mi from this source, but the infobox formatting messed it up. Seems it expects km2 and won't accept anything else or a ref tag. Vsmith (talk) 12:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The area in the first paragraph does not match the area in the infobox. The infobox lists the size as more than double of the text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.154.162.16 (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Flora of the Mojave Desert

In the flora section, I am going to add a very general narrative description of the flora from the main article Flora of the Mojave Desert. I will then move the list (as it now appears in this article) to List of flora of the Mojave Desert. I will temporarily use the lead of that article for this section, then come back and work it up to give the user a general understanding of the flora. If there is a reason for having the flora section of this article appear as a list rather than a general narrative, please let me know and I will change it back. FloraWilde (talk) 00:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

discrepancy re: size of the Mojave Desert

There is inconsistency with respect to the size of the Mojave Desert in Wikipedia articles. The main article (Mojave Desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojave_Desert )has the size at 47,877 square miles. However, the List of North American Deserts article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_deserts )list the size of the Mojave as 22,000 square miles. A link in the latter article, to geology.com has yet another size, 54,000 square miles. Brooklyn Maloney (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)Brooklyn[reply]

Highways

J Yooitzleo (talk) 05:44, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mojave Desert/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 22:30, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but this one's gonna have to be a quickfail.

The climate section is almost completely unsourced
weather2travel.com is used as a source for temperature data; it is an unreliable source
the geography section is unsourced, and also incomplete. We'll want to know about specific natural features
Cities and regions is mainly unsourced
The natural features such as Devils Playground in the cities and features section could possibly go in the geography section or something like that
Highways and major roads is a single sentences; needs expansion
Parks and tourism is largely unsourced
the list of musuems should be a prose paragraph
the flora section needs expanded
The fauna section should not just be a giant list
Soil and plant conditions and protection sections are both unsourced and too short. More detail is needed on these topics
The West Mojave plan litigation is undue weight.
Too many see also links - see MOS:SEEALSO
What makes constructioncompany.com a reliable source?
what makes parlorsongs.com a reliable source
All items in lead should be in body, there is stuff like the native name that is unique to the lead.

This is nowhere near to the GA criteria, so I will have to quickfail it, unfortunately. Hog Farm _Talk 23:04, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the helpful criticism. I will begin working on this immediately. AurumIsGold (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mojave Desert/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: SounderBruce (talk · contribs) 10:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will add comments later. Sounder Bruce 10:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Failed "good article" nomination

This article has failed its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of September 1, 2021, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: The article needs heavy copyediting. Lines such as "Relatively, there is not much riverine activity" indicate a poor level of writing, while other sections aren't easy to understand for laymen. A few sections devolve into chains of links with no comments between them, making for an extremely tedious read.

2. Verifiable?: Several paragraphs are still missing inline citations.

3. Broad in coverage?: Most sections are far too undeveloped for a subject of this size and scope. The human development section is a measly paragraph about recent development but does not mention the historic development of the region, let alone the indigenous inhabitants.

4. Neutral point of view?: The article is skewed towards recent events and thus leaves out some points of view.

5. Stable?:

Pass

6. Images?: Far too many decorative images, but few that convey the size of the desert itself (perhaps a satellite view).

It's clear that this was a premature nomination and that the improvements made since the last nomination were not sufficient. I would suggest not nominating this article again until after consulting another venue such as peer review only after addressing the major scope issues raised.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— Sounder Bruce 04:34, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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— Assignment last updated by Ricky.jones91 (talk) 03:24, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ricky.jones91: Thanks for your contributions. Please read WP:PUFFERY for some tips about how to write in a neutral factual tone for Wikipedia. — hike395 (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]