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Proposal to merge Aljažev stolp here

IMHO the content of Aljažev stolp should be integrated here as a subsection, as both subjects are quite inseparable. --Romanm 05:14, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Easiest route

The page currently says: "Easiest route: rock/snow/ice climb". Is this really correct?

climbingtriglav.htm says "You too can do the hike to the summit, even if you have no experience in this sort of thing." and makes it clear that the ascent is a hike, not a climb.
triglav.html confirms this, saying "Many marked trails lead to the top" and "Climbing Triglav in winter is quite a serious affair and demands lots of skills and proper climbing gear.", implying that in summer climbing gear is not needed.

Can anyone with personal experience confirm that the easiest route should be listed as 'hike' or similar? --David Edgar 14:11, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have climbed Triglav twice, both times in winter. In winter you certainly need ice climbing gear, but in the summer there is a route via the Triglav lakes that can be done over 2-3 days which is really just a hike. There is also some very good climbing from the North side approaching from Mojstrana and the Aljazev Dom. Ben Holden 23.07.07

Thanks for the answer. I went up Triglav a couple of weeks ago, using the popular Stara Fužina - Vodnikov Dom - Dom Planika route. I used no special equipment. The route's well protected, via ferrata style. I'll change the 'easiest route' to "scramble / via ferrata" to reflect that it's a bit harder than just a basic hike. But certainly no climbing is required to reach the summit. --David Edgar (talk) 09:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to confirm, I "hiked" this during the summer through the 3-day "Lakes" route. Descent was using a steeper half-day route, do not know the name of that route but more difficult than a hike and serviced by pre-installed holds...so not a climb per-se. If you're fit and like challenging hikes, this is excellent. John Heimiller 09.06.10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.79.229.2 (talk) 21:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Triglav the mountain and Triglav the deity

Should a possible connection to the slavic deity Triglav be mentioned here? It would appear to me that the explanation of the name as meaning something along the lines of "the mountain with three peaks seen from a certain point" could be an example of popular ethymology.

Triglav (mountain) has only 2 "heads" (peaks). Seems probable that "Triglav" refers to that ancient deity not to the literal meaning of the word (triglav meaning 3-headed/3-heads). Should be mentioned here and the Triglav(deity) page. --Neikius 00:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Triglav may only have 2 peaks but from afar it look like they are 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.161.15.223 (talk) 10:08, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Occult nonsense. Triglav was named after 3 heads of this mountain and indeed, after god Triglav. In Bled (island) was a temple dedicated to goddess Zhiva, which was destroyed and rebuilt into a Christian church. There remained many legends about Golden horn god (Zlatorog), who was in fact representing a god Kresnik (Perun)... Perun was probably part of the Trinity called Triglav, like a Vedic Trimurti. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.226.78 (talk) 20:51, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rimsky-Korsakov

"A lengthy symphonic poem by the composer Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, adapted from the third act of his opera Mlada, bears the title “Night on Mount Triglav”, though the action is actually situated among the Polabian Slavs near the Elbe river, in today's Germany."

I've removed this paragraph as I don't see how does it relate with Mt. Triglav that is the subject of this article. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 15:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First occurrence of the name

The etymology section mentions that the name of the mountain first appeared in 1612, whereas here[1] (or here) it is written that it was mentioned in 1452. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 19:22, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Snoj usually gives the first attestation date of a name, although he does not explicitly state this. More detail about the 1452 date is here (see page 330, bottom half of page, with Trglau rather than Terglau). I'll rephrase the Snoj-based material so that it doesn't contradict the other data. The 1573 date seems reliable, but the commentary makes 1452 sound conjectural somehow—the Svet pod Triglavom article says "zanesljivo izpričan" (reliably attested), but the "zakaj bi ga ne imela?" (why wouldn't it have it?) in Planinski vestnik sounds less certain. And were the older transcriptions Trglau or Terglau? What do you think? Doremo (talk) 04:06, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bezlaj et al. dictionary (Etimološki slovar slovenskega jezika) also has the date 1612 for Terglau, but does not mention any earlier dates. It seems odd that these scholars would have ignored the 1452/1573 dates if they were reliable. Doremo (talk) 04:12, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it should be noted that some sources/scholars mention 1452 as the year of the first mention of the name, but this is only a conjecture. As for 1573, it sounds reliable. We should mention these dates, but should also ascribe them to the authors that mention them. The year 1573 is also mentioned in this article (pg. 100, 1st column, last paragraph) by Boris Golec. An interesting source is also this one from 1903 (PV, IX/12, pg. 201). --Eleassar ^{my talk} 11:36, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the material to the section. A review would be appreciated. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 11:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some minor copyedits to the additions. Doremo (talk) 11:47, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Triglav god

You should include Slavic god Triglav into this article... Because the name derives from "it"(them)..."3 head". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.226.78 (talk) 20:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for Triglav, mountain peak

Presented coordinates appear approx 5km east of correct location.

A Better location is

46°22'42" N 13°50'12" E

—149.254.234.228 (talk) 07:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for pointing out the needed correction. Deor (talk) 11:20, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]