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Sabazios

The etymology from sabazo is possible, but a Phrygian cognate of sebein "to worship" is also possible. Do you have any reference for shattered pottery being offered to him? Thanks, Bacchiad 22:07, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Michelangelo

With regards to your edit "heterosexual scholars" carries a false implication. It was indeed "later generations" who found the poems an embarrassment. Scholars, heterosexual and otherwise, were familiar with the poems only in their bowderlised form as presented to the world by Michelangelo's own family. In fact, scholars were lucky to get them in any form whatsoever. In a time of great religiosity another family might well have simply burnt them.

It is all too easy to perceive such matters, and reinterpret them through modern eyes as being the homophobia of individuals. That was not necessarily the case. What was a necessity was that such relationships were not made public, as they were illegal. In other words, the openly homoerotic nature of Michelangelo's writings would have been not simply an embarrassment to later generations of his family, but might have brought other males in his family under close and dangerous scrutiny.

The status of homosexuality in Late Renaissance/Early Modern Italian states was that while it was officially illegal, it was accepted as a fact of life by many of the intelligentsia; similarly homosexuality was Illegal in England though much of the 20th-century, yet had wide acceptance among the Oxbridge educated, artists and writers. It was not generally "heterosexual scholars" whose agendas were the problem; it was the necessity of complying with the law. Amandajm (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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