Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Leonid Brezhnev/archive1
I personally found this article a most helpful reference. JBurnham 14:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Object I haven't read the entire article yet, but I must object on the lack of References. slambo 15:39, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
- I can add one (all of the content here is easily verifiable, bordering on general knowledge). In the meantime, are you having a tough time with any specific claims, which I can try to verify for you? JBurnham 16:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Object for now. This statement suggests a need for references:
- Brezhnev ruled the Soviet Union longer than any man except Stalin, but his posthumous reputation is very low, both in Russia and among historians.
It isn't so much that I doubt the claim as I think the article would stand a better chance as exemplifying the best of wikipedia with a reference section. --Scimitar 17:36, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Object. References are an absolute requirement for a FA. Claims like "his orders are dated June 22nd" (relating to his being drafted during WWII) must have precise source information, regardless of how well-known the facts are. Phils 18:26, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It also occurs to me now that the three first paragraphs or "Crisis of the regime" are largely irrelevant to Brezhnev's biography and redundant with respect to other Soviet Union articles; the two first paragraphs basically detail generalities about the Stalin era and its economic consequences, and the third paragraph is a rather vague description of sociopolitical problems in the 1970s Soviet Union—Brezhnev is never mentionned, nor are any of his specific measures or policies that could have contributed to the situation; while it's good too provide some context, I feel three paragraphs is too much of a digression, and could be condensed. Phils 19:42, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It could definitely use a mention of his (bumbling) role in the Yom Kippur War →Raul654 19:05, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Follow up - when I made that comment, since I made that comment, I have expanded the Yom Kippur War article considerably, so that now you can just merely copy/summarize what is written there. →Raul654 08:29, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
- Object: Very informative. No doubt written by someone very knowledgable on the subject. I can see no gaping errors but without references it might as well be fiction. Cannot these frequent non referenced articles be sifted out and legitimately failed before time is wasted looking at them. Giano | talk 12:58, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Object, not comprehensive. Neutralitytalk 19:52, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Object. Lead is too short, no references. Comment: it looks like just a bio. Our standard is to have a discussion of influences, policies, and such, and I see few of that in the article as well, leading me to say it may not be comprehensive. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)