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Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav

Welcome aboard. It's good to see another British Columbian here. The idea has also floated around about regional contributors getting together for a beer; I hope that you are available if that ever happens. Eclecticology 07:39 Jan 31, 2003 (UTC)


Hi Ogmios, could you look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dog breeds/General? Thanks :) -- sannse 17:30 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)


Hi Matt, Although I appreciate the spirit of your contributions concerning "semitism," I just do not agree with you that if there is an "anti-semitism" article there should be a "semitism" article. As Danny points out, the "semitism" in "anti-semitism" was just a euphimism for "jewish." But aside from that fact, look at it this way: "dislike" and "like" are both words, but "disturb" and "turb" are not both words. Sometimes you can back-form a real word by subracting the "dis-" -- but sometimes you can't. The same thing goes for "anti-" Slrubenstein

I understand the argument you put forward, using "disturb" as illustration. I wonder about semitism because of the word semite. The definition of semite includes hebrews, so my assumption is that the "ism" was added to semitism and for some reason Arabs, Phoenicians and Akkadians were dropped from the meaning. I certainly can't dispute your claims about semitism based on your Jewish heritage and education, and I am not a linguist. This is just an observation/hypothesis about the word semitism's history. matt

Well I think you are right that it was odd that when "anti-semitism" was coined, it was applied only to Jews. But I think the reason (or two reasons) is obvious: jews were the only "semitic language" speakers living in Germany at the time, and the term was coined specifically as a term to identify Jew-hatred. As Danny pointed out on the article talk page, the term itself uses the word "semitic" euphemistically. Look, if I say "I hate Democrats" or "I hate Republicans," I do not mean I hate people who believe countries should be republics, or people who think countries should be democratic. We all know that the words "democratic" and "republic" refer to beliefs or political practices that are much more general than the official platforms of the Democratic Party or Republican Party. But because of US history, within the US these words are used very precisely. If I overheard someone in a bar saying "I am not a democrat" I would be making a big mistake if I infered that the person didn't believe that people should vote for government officials. I think in the same way the history of the word "anti-semite" narrowed the meaning of the word. Philoligists may still use the word "semitic" in a very different way, to refer to a family of languages (which tells you nothing about the "race" let alone religion of the people speaking those languages; Muslims and Christians speak Arabic; Arabs and Jews today speak Hebrew; Jews and non-Jews spoke Aramaic, etc.) So to be clear, the word "semite" does not include Arabs, etc -- Semitic refers to Arabic and Hebrew, to languages, not to people. I think it was only with the invention of "anti-semite" that a word used to refer to languages was suddenly used to refer to people, and here we get tangled up in racist assumptions... Slrubenstein

I see your point now. Maybe semitic should be themed closer to its actual meaning, and indicate that it may be a euphemism for "Jewish". matt

whoops, got bumped by Og,

...And untangling them takes work, and clarification. I appreciate both of your contributions to the Semitism article. Usually, where theres a polarity between the unreconcilable extremists, the neutral observers are the only ones who can point things out objectively. This is probably a deliberate strength in the design of human individuality, though its really hard to appreciate sometimes.-Stevert p.s did I say "deliberate". Geez...

It is easy for me to be objective in this case, as I harbour no racial, ethnic or religious predjudices and I do not practice any religion (get smacked around by a nun in the name of God and see how much _you_ like church :-)). matt

Hi Matt, I've moved "Vizsla" to Hungarian Vizsla. The Canadian and American kennel clubs use "Vizsla", but the UK, New Zealand, Australia and the FIC use "Hungarian Vizsla". So it seemed best to use that as our primary title (Vizsla is a redirect still). I hope this is OK with you. -- sannse 17:23 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC)


User Categorization

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You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Canada page as living in or being associated with Canada. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians of British Columbia for instructions. --Doviende 20:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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