Talk:United States congressional delegations from Arizona

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This page's layout doesn't make any sense; the congressmen are listed alphabetically (they should be listed chronologically); and the dates listed are their birth/death dates (very confusing; the dates of their appointments would be much more appropriate--especially if positioned AFTER their office!) Furthermore, the should be broken down by House and era (e.g. Territorial vs. Statehood). Iroll 17:48, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good thots (IMO but without refreshing my memory of the article). You might want to consider each period in which the number of seats doesn't change as an "era": there's a lot of continuity, in most states, within these eras, but crossing their boundaries is confusing, e.g., the new 3rd district may in some sense be the old 2nd, with the 2nd having newly populated territory and a new face. --Jerzy (t) 18:21, 2004 Mar 22 (UTC)

I think the addition of a simple subtitle serves to more clearly delineate the Territorial and Statehood eras of Congressional representation. Ross 15:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PVI Leans Out Of Date

The PVI leans of the district are out of date-O'Halleran's district is R+1, and Sinema's is D+5. ~~Joe~~

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Richard C. McCormick political party

Thanks to everyone for their edits! Ftr, I agree with Emk9 that the National Union Party (United States) likely isn't the "Unionist" party McCormick belonged to. Educated guess would be this is an example of 1800s sources playing fast and loose with party names, as they were wont to do—the Republican party in the 1870s sometimes called itself the Union Republican or National Union Republican party, so plausibly McCormick belonged to an Arizona affiliate of the GOP that called itself "Unionist," but that's just speculation. It's just a color in the table, so the NUP is probably good enough for now, unless someone has a better source.Nathaniel Greene (talk) 21:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I managed to track down a lead using McCormick's full name, Richard Cunningham McCormick.

First, on page 58 of this document, an article in the Arizona Historical Review, it mentions how McCormick ran under the Unionist ticket. This is an additional source to the Biographical Directory of the US Congress source stating that he was a member of the Unionist party.

However, more importantly, McCormick appeared to have been a member of the Advisory Board of the New York Young Men's Republican Union, the predecessor to the New York Young Republican Club. This is first mentioned here, the NYYRC's website mentioning it's history. I managed to independently verify this with this document, a publication of the New York Young Men's Republican Union; on page 4, it lists him as a member of the advisory board.

If anyone has access to the book Goff 1985, as cited in McCormick's page on Wikipedia, it might help resolve this conflict. Unfortunately, I am unable to access this book because I do not have access to it short of traveling to Washington D.C. to the Library of Congress. If anyone stumbles upon this talk page message and does have access to the book (in particular, a couple of universities, including Yale, Princeton, New Mexico, Utah, etc. claim to have this book, or live in Arizona), and is willing to go out of their way to find it, it would be very appreciated. If not, I'll see if I can manage to find it somewhere eventually.

@Nathaniel Greene @Emk9 Thank you so much for your effort and work on this article! It is very appreciated :) Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was elected as an "independent Union candidate" according to the Official congressional directory 41st Congress. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081796686&seq=60 I'm guessing this means he was pro-Union as in pro joining the United States. Emk9 (talk) 05:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]