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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was KEEP. —Korath (Talk) 15:18, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Jane Dornacker

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Non-notable reporter whose death, while sad, is not encyclopedic. RickK 09:15, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, tragic but not notable. Gazpacho 09:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Blanked by author - could be speedied. sjorford →•← 09:38, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep if article rewritten. Megan1967 10:03, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep if rewritten. Jane Dornacker may have been a non-notable reporter, but originally was well-known in the San Francisco Bay Area as a rock musician (toured with The Tubes and co-wrote their song "Don't Touch Me There", and led Leila and the Snakes before it morphed into Pearl Harbor and The Explosions) and stand-up comic. Not up to Ashlee Simpson level, maybe, but good enough for Wikipedia. --Calton 11:19, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to The Tubes then, and merge a summary of her other history in there. Radiant! 12:12, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep if rewritten. Capitalistroadster 14:39, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • No vote. Interesting, even while googling for "Jane Dornacker" with a handicap of only matches that include the word helicopter this turns up 1140 google hits [1], and 2300 by name only. [2] She is listed as a "famous person" who died in an "aviation accident" on planecrashinfo.com. Thank you for spotting this Rick, if only I could have raised this issue myself. So the question here is: what is the existing precedent? Are we currently hosting articles on any other newscasters/reporters, living or deceased on Wikipedia? If so, why? Does the fact that her death happened live, while on the air, and then in turn received global press coverage, significantly increase her notability as a result in contrast to other reporters? Do the 1140 google matches for this individual become more meaningful after taking into consideration that this accident occured nearly 20 years ago in 1986? If you believe this is non-encyclopedic Rick, please explain why and what one must accomplish within their lifetime to "justify" an article on Wikipedia. GRider\talk 17:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • People die all the time. The manner of the death might make them notable, but I fail to see how this person's does. If she hadn't died, would she rate an article? I doubt it, unless she had done something more noteworthy since the time she died. RickK 19:54, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
      • Please explain why you consider this to be non-encyclopedic, and what one must accomplish within their lifetime to "justify" an article on Wikipedia. Is the manner in which someone died not worthy of consideration when determining notability? GRider\talk 17:01, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep expanded and wikified. Just barely clears my notability bar due to additive effect of death on air and limited rock music fame. HyperZonktalk 17:22, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. GRider did some work in making it presentable. I think this belongs. – flamurai (t) 17:48, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep if expanded to include information discussed here. Gamaliel 17:52, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • I'll see what I can dig up. --Calton 13:29, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Just about a keep for me, but it really needs some work doing on it HowardB 17:58, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. None of the factors would be sufficient alone, but when you add the music career and the acting career (although the latter sounds like it must have been pretty minor) it's enough. Isomorphic 20:04, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. I think the killed on the air is notable enough. Not like there have been many. --Woohookitty 00:00, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Jane Dornacker was also a rock musician and breifly a movie star. damicatz 20:28, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • It's a stretch to call her a movie star, frankly, though it was a real Hollywood movie she was in. --Calton 13:29, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's a borderline keep IMO even without the information above. When asking myself the question, "Is Wikipedia a better encyclopdia with this information or without it?" I find myself answering with the former and not the latter. I would like to see an expansion, however. BenSamples 21:31, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - David Gerard 23:51, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, cleanup. Legitimate subject, poor article. — Gwalla | Talk 01:50, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Well-known. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 06:19, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Duh, keep. —RaD Man (talk) 02:49, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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