Link to German occupation of Czechoslovakia March 15 1939 was deceptively removed with untrue comment "insufficiently universally notable entries" by Rms125a@... who made more similar vandalisms to this page, while there is being kept only a minor part of that same event about Carpatho-Ukraine, which was a state lasting mere 3 days between March 15 and March 18, 1939, as a consequence of that German occupation of Czechoslovakia...
While it has an article by itself, and while it is in a section, where out of 95 other entries only 2 have citations, one of which is internal, I've been requested to support it by an external citation, which I did by a reference [1] to a web-site of an official state radio station in our country, and abbreviated the entry to a perfectly neutral wording.
Then the entry was reverted without any other explanation... Why is this event censored ?!
It was a first time, when Hitler's Germany and it's army invaded outside of German-speaking countries, while preceeding Anschluss of Austria and Munich Agreement about Sudettenland could be considered uniting of German-speaking countries under Germany rule as a continuation of preceeding Bismarck's unification of many small German-speaking countries into Germany, by which I do not pretend it was still just or righteous in 20th century or any time later. One should rather think, why this German occupation of Czechoslovakia in March 15 1939 did not oficially start the second world war yet, despite Czechoslovakia having a similar pact with western Allies like Poland had at that time... Someone wanted to give Czechoslovakia to Hitler to equip him with enough arms and give him access to USSR borders. [2] It does not matter much now, it was long ago... But wiping out this event from history pages is unjust censorship...
This is my negotiation attempt before rising the dispute to the notice-board... The event was not marginal and it should be mentioned in this list for March 15 and that should be obvious to any reasonable man... At least it was more globally important than a quarter of other events in that section, with prime examples being events such as a mere hotel collapse or ammunition explosion, or events in American Civil War, or a Greece dictator with only a local significance... (By which I do not suggest crippling the list by removing them also...) How does a hotel collapse or ammunition explosion compare to termination of statehood of whole European country, which occupation had 6-figure fatalities as a consequence, and which helped Hitler start the war ? Czech lands were industrial country by that time with significant arms production capabilities and an army comparable (about half) to that of Germany before 1938, so this was a substantial help to Germany to start the war, which is why he did not acquire rural Slovakia at that time also, and Subcarpathian Rus (renamed as Carpatho-Ukraine) was mountainous backwoods... (Slovakia became industrial country only later under socialist Czechoslovakia to move the critical industry more far from the Iron Curtain...) Q.E.D. - it was a globally significant event in build-up to the worst war so far and censoring it with pretending "insufficiently universally notable" is untrue...
79.98.159.114 (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC) P.A.S.[reply]
- It took 7 resp. 11 minutes to revert my edits of restoring March 15 1939 by a senior wikipedia editor Toddst1, who claims: "I am Wikipedia", with obvious political bias on his page having first notable quotation from H.Clinton and next mocking D.Trump, and by a user Uncle Dick who most of all engages in chatter talking with IP-address users, thereby collecting their list on "What links here" page. First one requested an external citation for a universally known event with it's own Wikipedia page, in order to censor it, which I nevertheless provided, then second one just reverted it without any explanation and left me a talk chat on IP-address page instead, lying about missing citation. Then after still 4 days 19 hours from this negotiation attempt, there is no open reply on this talk page and the date is still missing in the list, and Uncle Dick is probably bored and waiting for a private chat on his talk-page collecting IP-addresses... (I've been somehow enthusiast to chat on talk-pages 14 years ago, not any more, unless the case is really significant, which this one is...)
- How is it meant, that one should negotiate before rising the dispute?! The negotiation on talk-page is being ignored and it seems a vain loosing of time...
- The entry was first deleted "1 August 2017" by a mentally ill (by his own words) user Rms125a@hotmail.com engaging in Deletionism on Wikipedia. He claims to have OCD to avoid being criticized, because being or claiming to be handicapped is considered a bonus in this ill society... It was deceptively deleted in page-wide sweep beside deleting variously (non)important people from other sections to hide this deletion... He was awarded a "barnstar" award for all his deletionism by user A lad insane, which seems to be somehow meaningful ... Later in March 2019 he received "a topic ban applying to the subject of politics, as well as from all biographies of living persons whether political or not", and this March 15 1939 is a political subject also...
- You've underestimated graveness of your misdeed and a publicity that it may once get... It is a remarkable and exemplary case of Wikipedia Bias and Censorship in politically oriented articles, because wiping March 15 1939 from history is a big issue somewhere and should be elsewhere too... (While it was one of three major steps in build-up of World War II, with Anschluss and Munich Agreement being the other two, it was an event of major global importance. But you cannot help or harm people who died long ago in the Past, but Historical Revisionism and wiping of undesired information from history is a major contemporary topic, that can harm people in the Future. There is not few people rightfully very sensitive to this Historical Revisionism with March 15 being primary example...)
- As a nice coincidence, just when I was striving to return that March 15 1939 for second time, huge meteorite exploded over Ruhr, between Bocholt and Duisburg [3] (more exactly I was just previewing the change before submitting it 8 minutes later) 79.98.159.114 (talk) 21:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC) P.A.S.[reply]
- Uh. WP:AGFF much? You sound a little unsettled here. Please read the edit notice on this page. Days of the Year pages require direct WP:RS citations for any additions and unsourced additions are being reverted on-sight in an effort to clean these pages up. For details: content guideline or the style guide. Toddst1 (talk) 01:30, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Unsettled, probably... You were probably too tired to think more, there was a link to well written article in Wikipedia. But that was Uncle Dick who boiled me, because he reverted my edit with supplied citation and written on my talk page about missing citation, linking it to his list of "What links here", where he engages in collecting IP-address users foremost, see 500 pages there... That was seriously unjust...
- I should note, that as a consequence of this dispute, I've been harassed and blackmailed by a threat of banning me out-of-band by this user Toddst1 on my own TalkPage. I consider that greavely Unjust revenge and editorial suppremacism.
- 79.98.159.114 (talk) 03:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC) P.A.S.[reply]
- I'm sorry, but what the fuck? I gave the dude a barnstar three years ago, and yeah, sourcing's pretty cool. -- a lad insane (channel two) 02:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I apologize for picking your name out from Rms@hotmail talk page. It's because that "insane" in the nick, and that guy, who originally erased that, claimed to be "insane" also...
- It's a pitty I could not link here my satire about Nick Sandman case, where is also a section about Wikipedia... That was a very symptomatic case on many places, not only here...
- About those "barnstars". You are probably a novice or ignorant of spiritual matters, if it does not hinder you using a down-turned pentagram for a praise... (Even if you were a Satanist, that is just a mis-understanding. Consider Pythagoras explanation, that Pentagram means Health, but therefore down-turned Pentagram means Illness, at least in Spiritual realm. It's not a good symbolical praise to give that to someone... Pentagram also means Construction (or a Process of Creation) and Perfection (due to Golden Ratio encoded in it), but down-turned Pentagram is Wrong Construction and Perfect Evilness. But a Damaged Pentagram (open corners or missing lines), as may be seen in Washington DC maps, is Damaged Construction (or Construction of Damage?) inviting Daemons, as was published by Goethe in Faust just a year before they drafted that Washington DC map...)
- About "sourcing" - there are events so well and widely known you need not to source them externally, more so if it has it's own Wikipedia page... Now there are just 3 out of 96 events with a citation link, one of which is internal Wikipedia link. That request for external sourcing combined with rejection of undesired sources as "untrustworthy" is just protracting the Controlled Media Censorship here into Wikipedia... (I don't mean you personally, it's very general...)
- It's also interesting, that there is a photo in German occupation of Czechoslovakia of German citizens of Czechoslovakia greeting Hitler's troops, and in that Czech article I used as a citation source is a photo of Czech citizens showing angry fists to these troops on that same day. It somehow shows a different perspective to a same event and both are unbalanced and only comparing both gives you a plastic picture of the reality, which is also symptomatic of many similar cases, where on the Truth or Reality you can look from different Viewing Angle (Perspective) and claiming either to be the only correct one is flattening of the Reality to a single Perspective, which is not an outright lie, but a sort of lie by omission... One needs to understand that and Compare multiple Viewpoints, and use such sources, that show him both, or use multiple sources... It is very common case in many contested topics, and in some topics the dissent view is suppressed in Wikipedia, some have at least the "Controversies" section, but often it is censored also, by those same people who write the mainstream view above...
- I'm greatly thankful for the Tremendous Amount of Informations, that is present here in Wikipedia, a great source of Knowledge... It's just a pitty, that in some contemporary topics it's censored and biased to a single view-point of the debate. One day it would be better, I hope... 79.98.159.114 (talk) 03:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC) P.A.S.[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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