Talk:Royal Gorge

Early article comments

Some things I haven't figured out: I can't find a name Pike gave the Gorge on the 1806 expedition, and I can't find who originally named it the "Grand Canyon of the Arkansas", or why or when the name was changed to "Royal Gorge". It's obviously 19th century, since the accompanying photo uses both names, but I'm not sure what the full story is. -- ESP 04:51 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

• I'm looking for some answers, but check out these links:
• [1]
• [2]
• [3]

--Bwefler 22:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Also refer to [4] --Bwefler 22:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Bits of Travel at Home (1878) by Helen Hunt Jackson [5]. --Bwefler 22:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

See Names section below. Mcljlm (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

On the Bridge

Standing on the bridge is an exciting experiance. It will never rock from side to side always up and down

The Train Ride

This slow going train ride is exciting. But what on earth is the point. Slowly there and slowly back. The view of the bridge is awsome. But still JORDAN R.

The Royal Gorge Route Railroad is Colorado's oldest scenic train line. It covers some of the most breathtaking scenery in Colorado as it takes passengers through the Royal Gorge. If the Bridge is being considered to be merged into the Royal Gorge page, the Royal Gorge Route should be included as well as it is a major destination attraction in the Royal Gorge region of Colorado. Mark G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royalgorge (talk • contribs) 19:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The Park

You only have to bring 2 things money and your camera. A carousal is ok. And the lunch is fine. You can travel across the tram across the gorge. Or on the train that goes up and down the wall.

Go Fast Games

Someone should point out that these have been controversial ever since one sky jumper died during a stunt when he hit the bridge at 90 mph.

Rafting Outfitters

It would be nice to list some outfitters on here as information for the public. It would emphasize the fact that those interested in rafting the gorge should do so under qualified direction of a licensed outfitter.

• Whitewater Rafting in Colorado

Some text about rafting is okay, and the class of waters, entry/exit points, etc. But has to be encyclopedic, not listing rafting companies... not a tourism page.LanceBarber (talk) 08:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Major overhaul is in progress

I am attempting a major overhaul of this article. I've replaced some images, added some new ones, created sections, and added a few references. My ultimate goal is to see this article attain Featured status. Any help would be greatly appreciated. S. Dean Jameson 03:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

• I would hope that as more text is added, Image:D&RGW RR Train 1.jpg could be restored to this article without overstacking images. As a railroad timetable illustrating a train going thru the Royal Gorge, it adds to the article's discussion of the D&RGW railroad line there. Besides, the image you replaced it with, Image:Royal Gorge Bridge.jpg, isn't all that good, IMO: its focus on the bridge doesn't even show the river and lacks perspective. JGHowes ^talk - 15:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was keep as separate page. -- ¢Spender1983 (talk) 23:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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I suggest merging this article with royal gorge bridge, would you disagree?

Cunikm (talk) 12:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

• Disagree. The bridge and park exist because of the gorge. The gorge is a geologic feature and should have its own article. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 20:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

That is why I would suggest merging royal gorge bridge into this article. Look there already is section "modern history" which in fact does not really differ from royal gorge bridge article. Cunikm (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

• Disagree. The Royal Gorge is a geological feature. The Royal Gorge bridge is a commercial operation. The Base Jumping they promote has been disastrous with death and injury over the years with Go Fast engergy drinks - User:royalgorge 15:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

• Disagree. Two distinct items. One is a bridge. The other is a geographical feature. The concept is like merging the Brooklyn Bridge with New York. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 05:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• Keep separate. For the reasons above (however the analogy for the Brooklyn Bridge is the East River). ☑ SamuelWantman 05:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Dimensions of the Gorge

The listed dimensions of the gorge are rather misleading in some cases and implausible in others. First, with regard to the depth of the gorge: Yes, the gorge is 1250 feet deep in spots, though at its most-visited location (the bridge) it's less than 1000 feet deep. (The bridge itself is 955 feet above the river.) At the point where it's 1250 feet deep, though, the gorge is about half a mile wide. Where did the (uncited) figure of 300 feet wide come from? The bridge itself, which stands pretty much at the narrowest part of the gorge, has a main span of 880 feet.

Lastly, wouldn't it make more sense to describe the canyon as running east-southeast toward Canon City rather than west-southwest away from Canon City? After all, the water in the river is running east-southeast.

206.208.104.20 (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Names

Perhaps something about its names, based on "Pike ... recorded in his journal that his expedition had found the “Grand Canyon of the Arkansas River” ..." and "originally known as the Grand Canyon of the Arkansas River, but in 1847 local newspaperman Henry Ripley began calling the canyon the Royal Gorge in print" should be added. Mcljlm (talk) 23:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

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