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Sports Persons

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If Jim Thome (b. Peoria) & Billly Wagner (b. Tannersville, Va.) are on this list, then hall-of-fame baseball players who played in Philadelphia, such as Pete Alexander, Harry Wright, Jimmie Foxx, & Chuck Klein should also be included. But none of these guys is from Philadelphia; they just worked there for a while. Ballplayers from Philadelphia might include Reggie Jackson (b. Wyncote, Pa.), Tommy Lasorda & Mike Piazza (b. Norristown, Pa.), & Herb Pennock (b. Kennett Square, Pa.). These towns are currently in the Philadelphia metropolitan area, but may not have been when these people were growing up.

I'm going to let this page stand, but I urge anyone who agrees to make the appropriate edits.

I am inclined to agree with you, i removed players the are currently playing with Philadelphia area teams, with the execption of John Chaney being that he is in a hall of fame, as by default these persons are automaicaly assoicaed whit the city and being that we would have to add the whole roster for each team, puls Billy Wagnen ehhhhh. Also as well the list should stick to people who are assoicated with, lived in while they were notable, or were born in Philadelphia. Most people opn any of these lists are not really going to be natives, most achived their notarity after they arived in the city, though at the current time this list seems to buck the trend. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 08:35, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Categories

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I Broke down the people into some categories, that way the list is a bit more readable, i have put them in catories which they would be more assoicaed with, considering that some could be listed as multiple, and i am still tossed up on some others. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 08:35, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pete Conrad

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How about Pete Conrad, astronaut?... What category does he belong in? -Bri 16:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with inserting reference notes

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Sorry if I am misusing the template above. I am going to start trying to insert references to justify the includion of people on the various "People from (wherever)" lists that might be out there, but am in over my head trying to figure out how to insert them. Could someone please create notes after the names William Penn and Benjamin Franklin indicating that the following information is the reference source for their inclusion, which would also show up in the references section at the bottom, so that I can see how to do it in the future for the rest of the names? Thank you very much.

The source is Who Was Who in America, Historical Volume, 1607-1896, Chicago: Marquis Who's Who, 1967. I intend to use this single source as much as possible, so I would be deeply grateful if I could be shown how to repeatedly cite something as well.

Thank you again. Badbilltucker 17:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a fine use of the {helpme} tag. I will edit the page and add an example. I wasn't too sure if this source is a book or journal, but I used {{Cite book}} (see the talk page for how ot use it, I just used a few fields and shrunk it down). Bascially, you get a citation template and put it in ref tags. For the first ref you use the full details, and for following ones you just put <ref name="Marquis 1607-1896"/>. WP:FOOT explains how to use the ref system. --Commander Keane 19:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment

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A page similar to this one. List of people from San Francisco, is currently under review as an article for deletion, for reasons which would apply to this article as well. I am conducting an RfC on the talk page of the above-mentioned list to determine whether the concensus agrees on keeping such lists or not. Any and all comments are more than welcome. Badbilltucker 16:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page does seem counter-intuitive with entries such as Mike Schmidt, Allen Iverson, Randall Cunnigham and Donovan McNabb. OTHER places, places of their birth, already claim these people, you cannot simply adopt them as "from Philadelphia" because they are likeable and played here, that is not the same as being from here. As I tried to mention earlier, a change in the name of the page would help but I do not think such a list is of any great value when it only adds to the confusion of who claims a famous figure. The standard has always been place of birth or having spent a significant number of formative years there. I would consider deleting this page if these entries keep appearing. It only misinforms. Gavin.s 13:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
also the following MUST be revised IMHO - "The following is a list of notable residents, natives, and persons generally associated with the city of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the fifth largest city in the United States. The list includes former and present residents of the city." NO NO NO - persons associated with the city is a counter-intuitive and asinine concept. If that is the standard then DELETE this page immediately. FROM MEANS FROM, do not act like a bunch of hacks and insult every hometown listed here. Gavin.s 13:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This was posted in 2006, yet in 2011 the text "The following is a list of notable residents, natives, and persons generally associated with the city ..." is still there. Why hasn't it been changed? What happened to the RfC? Simesa (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flawed logic

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By your logic, Gavin.s, a naturalized citizen would not be a real American because he wasn't actually born in America . . . even if he lived in the U.S. for 20 years. And Benjamin Franklin wouldn't be a real Philadelphian, since he was born in Boston. The notion that you would exclude Mike Schmidt, Allen Iverson, Randall Cunnigham, Donovan McNabb, and even Julius Erving from a list of people from Philadelphia is -- to quote you -- "asinine". 65.215.37.164 - 17:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A string band is not a person

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I have re-removed

Yes, the Aqua String Band has people as members, but the string band is NOT those people. It is an organization. If the membership changes 100%, it is still the Aqua String Band.

More directly, if the Aqua String Band is a "person" from Philadelphia, so are the Eagles, the Phillies, every business in the city, every organization in the city, etc.

Name descriptions

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I've tightened some of the descriptions. Many of them included full sentences, including awards, etc. that are already in the bios. I also tried to remove the redundant links and have placed all the names in categorical alphabetical order. I think this has improved the page quite a bit. PAWiki 14:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Franklin not here?

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I'm adding Benjamin Franklin. His bio confirms residency in the Intro. Is there some reason he of all people was not listed herein? Simesa (talk) 01:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This apparently gets to a central point. The Intro says "The following is a list of notable residents, natives, and persons generally associated with the city of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania..." -- It not only does not say they have to have been born in Philadelphia, it in fact seems to explicitly those who have been residents but weren't natives.
Further, the title is List of people from Philadelphia and NOT List of people born in Philadelphia.
I think the intent of the article is very clear - people who were strongly influenced by having lived in Philadelphia are intended to be included on this list. Simesa (talk) 02:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Seymour Remenick

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Added Seymour Remenick. His work had been exhibited in Philadelphia Museum of Art, the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts, has been been auctioned at Christie's, had also been elected as an academician to the National Academy.

Stephen Girard

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Surly he should be here, either on the list of historic persons or on the business list. Perhaps the most eminent Philadelphian of all. Seadowns (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Basketball and high schools

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As I conducted some cleanup edits, I notice there appears to have been an initial effort to chronicle Philadelphia basketball players and their respective high schools. If these players are notable and have some city of Philadelphia connection, they should be included here without reference to the high school (which should be in the bio). But the effort is a good idea for a possible stand-alone article. Whoever was at work at that should consider that approach, not one of creating it on this page. Keystone18 (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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